What do the Tribes believe about salvation?
Response
Section titled “Response”The Tribes believe they are worthy of being God’s special people…
…because they’ve made difficult psychological choices…
…like giving away all their possessions and letting the Tribes’ leadership have complete authority over them…
…which qualifies them to receive salvation.
Incidentally, from the Tribes’ perspective, becoming like Jesus is actually easier to accomplish than in Christianity, because the Tribes view Jesus as less Divine than Christianity does.
The overall effect is:
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The uniqueness of the Savior is decreased (compared to biblical Christianity)
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The requirements for gaining salvation is increased (compared to biblical Christianity)
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The natural human nature of people is less fallen/sinful/helpless, and more capable of following God* (compared to biblical Christianity).
*To fulfill the requirements for salvation: fallen, unsaved people have the ability and responsibility to make significant changes to their own foundational choices & behavior (including giving up their desires, possessions, and self-will). This differs from Christianity, which does not believe that unsaved people are able (and often not even wanting) to accomplish major steps of biblical transformation (“sanctification”) prior to salvation.
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The Tribes say…
Yahshua was only a human but he was found worthy, so he was rewarded with Sonship at his baptism, at which point God indwelt him.
Similarly nowadays, the people who are found worthy are rewarded with sonship at their baptism, at which point God indwells them.
“Found worthy” = giving your whole life to the Tribes (all your money + possessions + time + mind + heart + body + decision-making + effort + relationships).
In contrast, the Bible says…
— Jesus is God from eternity past
— No human is worthy
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We are saved despite our unworthiness, not because of worthiness
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I give my whole life to Jesus Himself, not to His body
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Surrendering authority over my life to Jesus is a result of my salvation (and happens progressively: spiritual growth). It’s not a pre-condition of my salvation.
Explanation
Section titled “Explanation”From “Michael” (a former member of the Tribes)…
According to the Twelve Tribes, the gospel or “good news” itself is that Jesus is offering salvation to any person on earth, if they would first meet pre-requisite conditions and qualifications to bring it about. These conditions are taught to be obedience to Jesus’ commands to the rich young ruler in Mark 10 to forsake his life and possessions and follow Jesus in a communal living arrangement. The Twelve Tribes teach this work of self-forsaking brings about a person’s salvation and rebirth - it is the prerequisite and condition to salvation, and besides performing this work of self-forsaking and giving up of one’s life there is no salvation, without exception. The Twelve Tribes believe Eugene Spriggs was given a unique revelation of this “true gospel”, that has been absent from the earth for 2000 years, and so since the Twelve Tribes are the only place on earth who understand what the gospel is, it follows these communities are the only place on earth where a person can meet the qualifications and pre-requisites of salvation - giving up all your possessions and living in a communal living arrangement - and thus be saved.
“Salvation is not a free gift … much is required to have this gift of eternal life.” (Three Eternal Destinies #217, 2007)
“You can’t just “believe it”, but there’s a qualification - something you have to do. There are requisites, and pre-requisites to receiving the Holy Spirit.” (What Will Be the Outcome? 2005)
“I hope the good news of salvation and deliverance from the place of eternal torment does not offend you, Michael. The rich young ruler asked “what must I do to have eternal life?” so our Master told him and His own disciples what one must do to receive the good news of salvation. This is what your daughter must do, and what you and every other human being must do if they want to be saved from that place of torment.” (Letter to Michael, 2008)
“This kind of faith is not outside the Twelve Tribes, which is the Body of Messiah. The Body has twelve gates. You can’t be saved unless you come in through one of those gates. These gates have to be raised up. Paul described the church as twelve tribes that serve God night and day. A person has to be a part of these tribes in order to be saved.” (Where are you From? 2005)
“There is no way to be redeemed outside of the Body, and no-one is saved unless he is in the Body.” (Like a Hand in a Glove, 2007)
“There is not one single person in Christianity today, whether they go to church or not, who is saved. Not one person in Christianity is saved, for they don’t do all they can do. Our Master said, “She did ALL she could” (Mk 14:8); if we don’t, we’re not saved either. Giving up all is salvation. We’re so thankful we’re restoring THIS gospel on earth, today.” (Giving up All is Salvation, 2007)
The Twelve Tribes believe the early church were living communally as a condition for their salvation, as this was what Jesus taught the apostles - and so they “surrendered” to the gospel of self-forsaking, through joining the early church community. The Tribes teach modern Christianity is in rebellion to the true gospel, through not living communally and sharing their possessions.
For the Twelve Tribes, salvation itself is the act of a person being baptized into the Twelve Tribes - where they can obey Jesus’ commands.
Obeying this gospel entails one doing “all he could.” Of course, you cannot do that if you are not in the Body (the Twelve Tribes communities). You are not even saved if you are not in the Body (the Twelve Tribes communities). One can only give “all” in the Body. The Body is the Community, and the Community is the Body of Messiah, according to Col 1:18 and Eph 1:22-23. (Found Wanting, 2007)
Now, many people say they believe in God, but they do not trust Him to do with them as He pleases. But we do. When we say, “We trust Him,” it means we literally trust the Body of Messiah, as salvation comes through the Body (the Twelve Tribes communities). And that is eternal life. No one receives eternal life unless he trusts the Body of Messiah. (Citizens of the Commonwealth, 2007)
When the believers in the first century were starting to get killed, those who wanted to be part of the Body knew they would get killed too if they were baptized. But they were still baptized into Messiah, into his Body (the Twelve Tribes communities). This is the only way a person can reach his blood and be forgiven. (Baptism, 2007)
According to the Twelve Tribes, man’s eternal destiny is a choice presented to him by God. Man is given a decision as to whether he will use his will to cooperate with Jesus and meet the terms of peace of forsaking his life and living in the Twelve Tribes, or reject the terms of peace and send himself to hell. The Twelve Tribes teach God does not and cannot save people according to his personal will or his sovereignty, but instead has offered a universal salvation to anyone who is willing to meet the conditions, and has left salvation up to the ultimate decisions of men, through placing all saving authority in the Twelve Tribes and their message/gospel of self-forsaking and communal living as being the conditions of salvation. To reject the message of the Twelve Tribes is to reject salvation.
“The coming King has offered terms of peace to all and any who would obey his message.” (Twelve Tribes official website)
“To follow our Master requires that we make an irreversible decision, but our Father is the one who knows whether we have made it or not. He knows our heart. Then He imparts His Holy Spirit to us on that basis.” (Repentance Means a Revolutionary Change, 2003)”
“Some people are not willing to do our Father’s will, so He cannot give understanding to them. It can’t be given to them unless they are willing, as our Father doesn’t go beyond our willingness. He judges all men by their will” (Wheat and Tares, 2008)
“So whether one has even heard or not, the choice of each person’s destiny is theirs alone. It would have been better if one would never have heard than to have heard and not responded to the good news, or to have rejected it” (3 Eternal Destinies #197 Worthy of their Destiny, 2002)
“To receive him is a matter of choice, and our Father gives every human being the right and choice to choose his own eternal destiny.” (Our Father’s Business, 2008)
The Twelve Tribes believe the Christian gospel of salvation by grace through faith without works is satanic, as they would claim those who believe it aren’t “doing all that they can do”.
…Not one person in Christianity is saved, for they don’t do all they can do. Our Master said, “She did ALL she could” (Mk 14:8); if we don’t, we’re not saved either. Giving up all is salvation. We’re so thankful we’re restoring THIS gospel on earth, today.” (Giving up All is Salvation, 2007)
The Twelve Tribes do not teach self-forsaking, giving up of one’s possessions and a common life with other believers is the fruit of a person having been saved by God’s grace, but instead teach it is the cause and condition of salvation itself.
In contrast, the Bible teaches salvation is a supernatural, unconditional free gift that is given to God’s people as an expression of God’s love, because they are powerless to bring it about themselves on an account of being spiritually dead in sins and estranged from God (Romans 3:10, 3:24, 4:16, 5:10, 6:23. ) God provides the faith (Eph. 2:8-9) to believe the entire gospel - which is the whole truth about who God is, who mankind is, mankind’s sin, and the truth about the person and work of Jesus. The Bible does not teach people must cooperate with God, meet conditions or prerequisites or perform works to bring about their salvation. The Bible teaches people to believe God, by looking away from themselves to another person - Jesus. A person is born again when God Himself quickens their dead spirit (Eph. 2:1-3), presents them with the truth in God’s Word, provides the supernatural faith to believe His Word and the good news about Jesus Christ (Eph 2:8-9) and then seals them with God’s spirit upon believing (Eph. 1:13).
This is something supernatural and real that is done to a person who cannot do it themselves. It comes from God, freely. The fruit is then a person desiring to lay down their lives and serve their brothers and sisters. The Twelve Tribes teach the Biblical fruit of salvation is in fact the self-willed condition of salvation.